In our second episode, James Lee, Director of Learning and Development, is joined by Dr Selen Kars, Associate Professor in Organisation Studies at UWE and co-author of Unleadership, and Sanjoy Shah, Trust Medical Director at North Bristol Trust. Together, they explore the paradoxes leaders face in times of crisis, discussing how letting go of control, dismantling ego-driven leadership, and drawing on collective intelligence can help leaders navigate uncertainty more effectively.