Ram shares what it was like joining the Hare Krishna movement in the 1970s, his personal encounters with Srila Prabhupada, witnessing the movement change after Prabhupada's passing, and why he eventually began searching beyond the institution while holding onto the spiritual truths that first transformed his life.

The conversation also ventures into Ram's experiences studying Ayurveda, traveling into the Peruvian Amazon to work with Shipibo shamans, encountering ayahuasca, confronting mortality, observing the mind, and discovering why extraordinary spiritual experiences can point toward truth—but cannot replace the daily work of becoming who we're meant to be.

And beneath all of those experiences is one remarkably simple message:

Love everybody. Serve everybody. Remember God.

The discussion later turns toward instituti ...