In this full-length episode, host Jane Kim sits down with trailblazing aviation civil engineers Suzanne Peyton and Mary Fair. They dive deep into the world of aviation infrastructure—explaining what it actually takes to run and build airports—and tackle the critical business and cultural challenges of retaining women in traditionally male-dominated STEAM professions.

The guests share their personal career trajectories, discuss moving from engineering into executive leadership, and offer invaluable, candid advice on how to navigate constructive feedback, build professional trust, and negotiate a career that accommodates personal priorities without sacrificing upward momentum.