Mo Bitar, Founder of Standard Notes, returns for Part 2 of his conversation with Vishnu Mohandas, CEO of Ente — diving deeper into building privacy-first products, his burnout from privacy, life after Proton, and the lessons learned along the way.

Listen as they talk about startup struggles, the mental toll of building in public, and why Mo believes the future of privacy needs a different path.

Mo Bitar – https://mough.xyz | https://x.com/atmoio

Conquer – https://conquer.dev/

Ente – https://ente.com/