What does it mean to find your identity in a world that keeps trying to put you in a box? In this episode of People's Podcast, Bernadette sits down with Alfred Ngaro for a wide-ranging conversation about hope, purpose and identity in modern New Zealand.

Alfred draws on decades of community leadership, pastoral work, politics and fatherhood to speak honestly about the struggles New Zealanders are facing right now, from financial pressure and loneliness to the slow erosion of resilience and the loss of a giving culture.

Together they explore why young people are struggling more than ever, what it looks like to build genuine hope in a community, and why the most important work we do often starts at home, not in public life.

Alfred shares some of the most memorable moments from his journey, including a challenge to a principal who h ...