Watch the short film "In the Space Between Ages" on Zeale: https://zeale.co/video/in-the-space-between-ages 

After Notre Dame unveiled its new, modernist stained-glass windows and reignited an old debate, Erika sat down with sculptor Dony MacManus to ask why modern art is so ugly – and what sacred beauty still demands of us. A bracing conversation on art, suffering, freedom, and faith.

Timestamps:

0:00 - Intro: Why is modern art so ugly?
1:45 - Sculpting a monument for the U.S. Navy
3:25 - Becoming an artist, turning towards the light
6:24 - Creativity and freedom is found within constraints
9:39 - Drawing is contemplating reality visually
12:50 - How smartphones kill creativity
14:32 - AI art = anti incarnational
15:07 - Art history: how did we get to modern art that’s so ugly? ...