"Surrounded by all these people, they never felt lonelier. That's the paradox — they bring all these people in and they still feel alone." — Josh Perry

What if the performance strategy you've been sold is the thing burning you out?

Josh Perry has lived both sides of this. A former X-Games athlete who overcame multiple brain tumors, he's now a high-performance coach — and his take on performance will make a lot of "just work harder" advice feel exactly as hollow as it's always been. He calls it the negation of self: when your goals are secretly wired to prove you're enough, the pursuit only reinforces the lack. More effort. More exhaustion. Less connection. Repeat.

Karl and Josh dig into the real reason so many high-achieving executives feel isolated at the top — and why the leaders who look the most successful are often ...