Kevin and Ryder kick off a multi-part series on one of history’s most universal and fascinating symbols: the dragon. Before diving in, they catch up on the Enid tornado, Vance Air Force Base history, storm chasers using 4K cameras, 90s cartoons, growing up without cable, and the wild generational leap from outhouses to VR headsets.

Then the real conversation begins. Dragons show up in nearly every ancient culture on earth, from Mesopotamia and Persia to China, Greece, and Mesoamerica, with no clear evidence of any culture copying another. Using the framework of “Universal History” developed by scholars like Richard Rowland and Jonathan Pageau, Kevin and Ryder explore why a symbol this widespread has to mean something deeper than just a scary monster.

In this episode, Part 1, they trace the dragon from the Babylonian chaos monster Tiam ...