On the fourth episode of the Suns After Dark Podcast, Gerald Bourguet is joined by ESPN's Brian Windhorst to break down the Phoenix Suns' surprising 2025-26 season so far!

First, they start with Kevin Durant's revenge game-winner against the Suns and his "scapegoated" comments after the fact. Was KD scapegoated in Phoenix? Or does he deserve his fair share of blame for how the Suns spiraled last year?

Then, Windy tells some stories about his time covering the Suns in Phoenix, including his memories of the 2021 and 2022 teams, the ESPN story exposing Robert Server and more.

After that, Gerald gets Windy's thoughts on how the Suns have drastically exceeded expectations this season, including people underestimating the Dillon Brooks Experience.

From there, it's time to examine Jordan Ott's case for Coach of the Year, whether ...