Episode 5 of Sunday School Slackers! Chris Mac and Mateo dig into what pastors and worship leaders actually get paid (including a wild $2,000-a-week rumor out of Detroit), then trade their most chaotic church memories — a youth pastor's crash course in explaining polyamory to 14-year-olds (or vise versa), a baptism testimony that goes sideways, and a Halloween church play moment neither of them will ever forget. They close it out with a rant about Christians who love the word "liturgy" a little too much.

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