Joe Nelson, the founder of one of the first online communities for former members of the Xenos/Dwell cult, stops by today in our podcast with a brief yet insightful reminiscence about why the stories of the religiously abused there are not confessions of spiritually deficient people who can't hack the Xenos claim of standing for Christian truth .. but are real expressions of a church that's become a snakepit of secrecy that inflicts trauma done in the name of God.