Mike sits down with Jay “Packy” Dempsey, a retired police officer, author, and speaker, who shares his journey through trauma, addiction, and recovery after a life-altering self-defense incident. Today, Packy helps young officers and men’s groups build awareness, accountability, and a steadier identity under pressure.

Jay's book, 'The Fastest 4 Seconds', is available soon https://www.fastest4seconds.com

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