What does film pre-production have in common with international development, software engineering, or urban design? More than you'd think!

In this episode, Danielle sits down with Kelsey Wilkins - screen writer, script supervisor, and sister extraordinaire - to talk about how pre-production, by any other name, would still be project design.

The two get into why the film industry's planning processes mirror challenges we see across many other sectors, why bigger is not always better when it comes to storytelling if you can't align your vision, how strong vision without receptive leadership tanks good projects. Along the way: food trucks, Wes Anderson, theater playwright protections to directors who hate the color red.

It's a conversation about clarity, alignment, and why "flexible but firm" is the leadership balance most proj ...