Welcome back to the show within the show.

This episode began with a pastor talking about Shia LaBeouf and somehow led me through Rick & Morty, James Sexton, Dan Harmon, Theo Von, and one of the most beautiful reflections on grief I've ever heard.

On the surface, they're completely different conversations.

Underneath, they're all asking the same question:

Is caring still worth the risk, even though grief is inevitable?

We explore grace, redemption, vulnerability, meaning, and what it really means to let another person matter.

If something in this episode resonates with you, I encourage you to spend time with the original creators. Their work is linked below.

Thanks for letting me come through your speakers again.

**Sources Mentioned**

Pastor on Shia LaBeouf ...