Bonus content! This episode is a bit more emotionally charged. It's about the Alex Gibney documentary "Totally Under Control" which you can watch on Hulu. This doc puts a spotlight on the White House’s failed response to the global pandemic and how it could have been prevented. Featuring damning testimony from public health officials and hard investigative reporting, Gibney reveals a system-wide collapse caused by a profound dereliction of presidential leadership. That said, epidemiologist Eileen White is the real superstar of this episode, shedding light on what it looks like to be inside the proverbial war zone. Enjoy!

0:00 - Introduction

10:00 - Austin & Joe talk "Totally Under Control" (which you can watch on Hulu)!

22:20 - Austin & Joe's welcome epidemiologist Eileen White into the conversation.

1:06:40 - Outr ...