My guest is Michael Green—his story is compelling. He spent four years in prison, which he says was just the amount of time he needed [in “the slammer”] to make him a better person.

Now he's an expert house flipper who teaches others how to implement simple systems to find great contractors to get jobs done "ON time" and "ON budget." He also host of the Flip Factor podcast and has flipped over 1100 houses the last ten years.

As a kid, Michael had a history of getting into trouble. His dad was a career criminal—something they bonded over. Age 9, he was caught selling fireworks at school. Age 16, he already has his own apartment. Making lots of money enabled him to buy a Corvette as a teenager (and hire an attorney when he was arrested).

In this conversation, he talks about daily life behind bars, creative things he did in the pen ...