What if the secret to building a truly great team starts not with strategy or systems, but with learning to genuinely put people first?

This week, Jon Goehring and Coach Jim Johnson welcome back one of the Lounge's few repeat guests, Dr. Craig Nathanson, educator, author, speaker, and leadership coach with over 25 years of experience helping leaders build more human and sustainable organizations. Dr. Craig joins to dig into his powerful new book The Humanistic Leader, and the conversation is one of the most thought provoking the Lounge has ever had.

Dr. Craig opens by drawing a clear and practical line between managing and leading, explaining why both matter deeply and why the best leaders never rely on one without the other. He then unpacks what a humanistic leader actually looks like in practice, why putting people first is not jus ...