In this episode managing editor Tyler Frank and co-editor Eric Junco talk with Kristie Camp about her recent article in JAAL "Let's Go on an Adventure: Literacy Lessons as a Material Starting Place for Writing". Kristie Camp's article explores how reconfiguring the learning environment (holding ELA classes outside) contributes to literacy learning for students tracked into classes that foreground required writing processes. She delves into how offering self-expressive writing opportunities outside, accompanied by active environmental engagement, might inspire students who had not written much in ELA class to create something original and thereby better inform their teachers of their literacy skills.