"AI native software development" gets thrown around everywhere right now—and almost nobody can define it clearly. Not a chatbot bolted on. Not Copilot autocomplete. We mean production-grade systems where AI agents write, orchestrate, and ship the work end-to-end.

In this episode, hosts Sam Dave and Mac Goswami sit down with Mohamed Faker, Engineering Leader, Financial Services AI at Vanguard Group and co-founder/CTO of Hirin, a fractional leadership hiring platform built almost entirely by orchestrating specialized AI agents.

Key Insights:

• What AI-Native Actually Means — Every line of code in Hirin was AI-produced. Mohamed's role: architect, decision-maker, final say on direction—not the one typing code.
• From Solo Orchestrator to Manager of Agents — How he evolved from manually prompting individual AI chats (ar ...