Conversation with Joe Ortiz, the lead singer with the band, Lockjaw who introduces the band members, talks about shooting the video for their song "I Can't Escape", songwriting, going on the road, and performing at Herostock Ashland's Rock Night. Followed by conversation with songwriter and bandleader Tony Traynor of The Traynr Band who talks about the musicians in the band, being the band's songwriter, managing the band, gigs they've played with big name musicians. Runtime: 60 minutes.

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