In this episode of Everyday Excellence, host Todd Baldwin interviews Michael Marvon, owner and Lucas Jones, Marketing Director of Smiley Drain.

Michael shares the entrepreneurial journey behind building a marketing-focused plumbing and drain cleaning business, from becoming a licensed plumber at 22 to developing a brand designed around customer psychology, efficiency, and local market presence.

The conversation explores why Michael believes entrepreneurs should “bet on themselves,” how focusing on efficiency can be more valuable than simply pursuing growth, and why building the right team is essential to long-term success.

Michael and Lucas also break down the evolving landscape of digital marketing, including Google Business Profiles, SEO, PPC, social media, ...