This episode starts off a little chaotic. We’re recording while there’s real-life drama happening right outside the office involving our landlords and a nearby shooting, which somehow turns into the setup for one of those classic Dial Tone catch-up conversations after a long week of barely talking to each other.

From there, the episode shifts into a mix of life updates and the kinds of thoughts that come out during therapy when you finally say things out loud instead of keeping them in your head. That opens the door to a conversation about creative habits like doodling during conversations, saving random notes from everyday life, and how documenting small moments over time can turn into something meaningful.

Eventually, the episode turns into what it naturally becomes: a full deep dive into hip hop. We talk about the Kendrick vs. Drak ...