Pain is universal—understanding it is anything but simple. In this episode of Body Banter, pain researcher Kip Kramer and medical student and chronic pain advocate Nicole Bailey take us inside the fascinating, often misunderstood world of chronic pain. Kip explores the science behind how pain works and the search for better treatments, while Nicole shares her powerful journey from severe, life-altering pain to reclaiming her identity, finding purpose, and turning her lived experience into a strength. Together, they reveal why understanding pain takes more than biology—it takes empathy, patient-centred care, and listening to the people who live with pain every day.