A Job with Less Stress with Eric Robinson

Eric Robinson spent 12 years in Christian ministry — youth pastor, associate pastor, church planter — before telling his wife he needed a job with less stress. So he joined the FBI. For 24 years, Eric worked drug cartels in Chicago, SWAT operations across the Midwest, crimes against children, white collar fraud, counter-terrorism, and everything in between. He's now retired and releasing a book called Irreverend.

In this conversation, Eric talks about what it's like to bust down a door as an FBI breacher ("the most important and least valuable person on the SWAT team"), how pastoral skills translated to getting confessions out of criminals, a surreptitious search warrant where his team stole a million dollars of cocaine from a drug supplier's apartment, a white collar ...