“Degenerative and non-productive conversation such as ‘When you invest in women, they get married, they will only produce children and no longer work’ – this kind of nonsense has to end. As we know, women are always productive, always doing something, always economically engaged – but it's not counted that way. […] It’s a lens we need to change.”

Baela Raza Jamil

In our fourth Global Souths Hub podcast episode, Bethlehem Attfield talks to Baela Raza Jamil. Baela is a public policy specialist, a former technical adviser to Pakistan's Federal Ministry of Education, and a leading advocate for educational reform. She is the CEO of Idara-e-Taleem-o-Aagahi (Centre for Education and Consciousness) and founded the Pakistan Children’s Literature Festival. Her leadership has driven national social movements focused on ea ...