Host, Billie Groom, chats with Howard Baskin of Big Cat Rescue in Florida, USA on the process, challenges, and eventual success (Dec 2022) in enacting a law preventing businesses from making money from "cub patting," We talk about the problems with your Everyday Joe thinking it's a good idea to own a big cat, and Exotic Joe convincing shopping mall owners it's a good idea to put big cats on display.