In this episode of Future of Foods, Alex talks to Andy Shovel, the co-founder of THIS, the plant-based brand that aims to make meat alternatives so realistic you need reminding that it's not the real thing. The 'THIS isn't...' range were responsible for making plant based foods more mainstream.

But Andy’s not just shaking up the food industry—he’s now turning his attention to something weirder. His latest venture, A Bit Weird, takes a bold look at the bizarre contradictions in how we treat animals. From gassing pigs while cuddling dogs to culling male chicks by the billions, Andy’s mission is to make us rethink what we consider normal.