In which Ben learns that there is more to Australian Liberal Party (that’s Tories for O/s people) recent implosion then the cult of personality of Dan Andrews, Victorian Labor Premier.Ben gets the take from Josh Gordon, longtime journalist, unionist and senior reporter at The Age newspaper on the historic by-election defeat of the Tories at the federal seat Aston and the history making opposition of Federal Liberals to an indigenous Voice for federal parliament referendum.

While they have a look at the continuing crisis in center politics.

Josh mentioned he's recent article which you can find herehttps:// ...